| Title | : | Avengers, Vol. 5: Adapt or Die |
| Author | : | |
| Rating | : | |
| ISBN | : | 0785154779 |
| ISBN-10 | : | 9780785154778 |
| Language | : | English |
| Format Type | : | Hardcover |
| Number of Pages | : | 136 |
| Publication | : | Published August 12, 2014 |
Storys: Avengers 24-28
Avengers, Vol. 5: Adapt or Die Reviews
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I liked the story in this one much better than I have for the previous volumes. Somehow it seemed less vague and trippy, and more like a real superhero story.<--Just my opinion!
For those of you who felt that Marvel hasn't showcased A.I.M. enough in its comics, this volume should make you happy. Plenty of action with the cool scientists in beekeeper outfits!
In fact, it's their meddling that brings the main storyline to a head.
Ever wonder if all of the Avengers in the multiverse are good guys? Or, more importantly, if some of them never updated their costumes?
No? Just me?
K. Whatever.
I don't want to spoil anything, so I can't say much, but there are some fantastic scenes toward the end between Tony & Bruce that are not to be missed.
Seriously. Don't miss it.
Anyway, in this particular volume, it seems like Hickman is going somewhere coherent with the plot, instead of kinda-sorta-maybe hinting at some Big Event that was in the works. Sure, we all know what he was up to now, but if I had read it back in the day, I probably wouldn't have put the whole Secret Wars thing together.
Ok. One more volume down, and seventy-bjillion left to go. Bring it on, Hickman! -
F@%king A.I.M. scientists!
Instead of screwing around in the multiverse, you’d think they could do something that could benefit humanity – like coming up with a watermelon flavor that doesn’t taste or smell like unwashed armpits.
Amiright, Anne?!?
In the meantime, over at Avengers Tower, the Avengers are having a barbeque; Thor is the barbeque master (and I'm sure he didn't forget to bring plates, utensils, napkins, etc.):
Mmm. Fimbulvinter pie….
But the cookout gets interrupted by word that a planet’s going to smash into the Earth. *sigh*
“Hey Spider-Woman, are you going to finish that burger?”
Back to A.I.M.: ‘Cause they’re geniuses they’ve ended up bringing in the original Avengers from another universe.
Random citizen to other-universe Thor: “Thor can my wife take a picture with you?”
Other-universe Thor (raises hammer and obliterates random citizen – and most of the gawkers): Verily, I don’t doeth selfies, bitches. Kneel before me for I am a freaking GOD.”
Memo to A.I.M. scientists – These Avengers are evil. Do something.
They send in a squad of “explorers”, but they don’t do a very good job of cleaning up their mess.
A dead Henry Pym…Oh, look over there, is that something shiny on the ground?
The bestest part of the evil Avengers is that Banner isn’t a smarty-pant doctor, but just some sociopath. He’s remote controlled by the other Avengers, who each take turns pointing him at random targets. Whooopee!
The real and angry Bruce Banner gets wind of the “universes colliding” plotline in Hickman’s New Avengers title and has a face-to-face with Tony Stark. Does he turn green and make a collage of Stark’s innards on meeting room table or is the situation resolved amicably?
Bottom line: Not as dreary and mind-numbing as Mr. Psuedo-science-boy Hickman’s other Avenger’s work, but you can take your fun wherever you can.
Daily life at A.I.M. (Hey, they're a sovereign nation, so bite me!)
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What do you do in the wake of an event like Infinity? Evil doppelgangers! Sigh… yes that overused superhero trope of baddie versions of the goodies gets trotted out in Avengers, Volume 5: Adapt or Die (of boredom).
I feel like this book came out around the same time as DC was doing their Trinity War garbage – it definitely reminded me of that tediously unimaginative event with the evil Justice League taking on the regular Justice League. So AIM (the beekeeper scientists) play with a Stargate and get evil Avengers who go to punch the regular Avengers. Schnorrrre……
The idea of planets smooshing into one another is mentioned again – as if that’s news to anyone reading at this point - this time with an Iron Man from the future travelling back in time to do something about the latest planet-smooshing. Maybe that will have consequences in later books but it’s still yawners. Some OMAC-looking things are flying around talking drivel.
Just awful across the board! For a writer often touted for his ideas, Jonathan Hickman’s fifth Avengers book is distinctly lacking in anything remotely original or engaging! -
That’s better.
This is the first collection of this Hickman run that I enjoyed for the most part. It mainly featured characters I recognize, it’s got a cool big threat of a rogue planet hitting Earth, there’s a kick ass scene of Bruce Banner struggling mightily to keep his cool while confronting Tony Stark about some sneaky shenanigans he’s been up to, Thor grills up a whole bunch of meat, and we get some evil Avengers from an alternate dimension. If they would have had goatees I would have given this another star.
You can see the whole collapsing multiverse threat that will lead into Secret Wars building up, and that’s the main reason I’m interested. Hickman is good at doing stories about the dark side of science in a way that’s both wacky and terrifying like in
The Manhattan Projects, and here he makes great use of AIM as a group of villainous scientists who use murder as one form of peer review. -
This is a an important arc in Hickman's Avengers run as it moves away from the Infinity crossover fallout and begins the inevitable march to the last issue of the run. Hickman's overall Avengers story in both Avengers and New Avengers starts to converge.
As a story on its own merits, it is a satisfying read, specially when one can read all issues in one sitting. I find the experience reading as a trade better than waiting for the biweekly issues. The story is nothing extraordinary but I do love the prelude chapter to this story-line, a standalone story which pushed a lot of buttons, all of them good.
The prelude chapter, of which the cover to the issue was made the cover of the trade is your typically Hickman story; high science and a Franklin Richards appearance. I am starting to think that the future Franklin Richards is an avatar of sorts for Hickman the writer. That issue was pretty good. Tony being a Stark and Thor manning the grill. This was indeed a satisfying read. -
This series keeps getting stronger and is obviously building to epicness.
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Meh. Probably a 2.5 if I could.
I suppose Infinity is a pretty hard story to follow up. This volume did nothing for me.
Blah, blah, blah-fucking-blah.
Realistically, I was thinking that since Infinity was over I would just give this series a rest until Secret Wars starts up in the spring; Especially with how lackluster the majority of the issues in this one were. That last issue though, it hooked me - the tension between Banner and Stark made for some very interesting story telling. So now I have to keep pushing on.
I suppose I owe the Avengers that much since they consistently save the world I live on.
Thanks for that by the way... -
This was just an epic volume. It starts with an ally from the future and focuses on the coming of Rogue planet and how the Avengers handle that problem and then Golden age Avengers from the past come in and so its time to deal with them and then we have AIM creating Adaptoids and the things that happen with them is interesting. The bulk of this volume is Avengers dealing with these rogues and facing SHIELD and finally its time for Hulk and how he gets involved with Illuminati and the conversation that Hulk has with Iron man is chilling and one of the best moments in this run. Hickman knows how to give you chills and much of the volume might feel like plot driven and moments of something happening but trust me everything is important and for the most part I liked the art. Its good and quite refreshing.
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It starts off really good, with the part drawn by Esad Ribic, but when it gets into the adaptoids storyline line, it drops a little. But then it ends pretty great. It's not a very consistent volume from Hickman, and it did have me worried that the quality of his Avengers was beginning to slip. But when you get to the end, and you see what he was planning all along it all makes sense. There's pay off. Both of his Avengers titles are also starting to spill into each other, which is pretty exciting.
I'm also not very keen on Salavdor Larroca as an artist. His work on Iron Man with Fraction was fine, and I tolerated it because the stories were often good enough to look past it, but even on THE AVENGERS, he's a little boring. His stuff just doesn't jump off the page much and excite me. I want Opena back, please. -
In this collection, the Avengers/A.I.M./S.H.I.E.L.D all come across the
Crime Syndicate of America from Earth-3some bad Avengers from a parallel world. The highlight is a sociopathic Bruce Banner who finds his way into some padded cell the Earth-616 Bruce Banner has set up as a hiding place. "Our" Banner figures out the other guy's deal and belts him, then heads off to Avengers Tower and confronts Tony Stark on what is going on with the Illuminati and the new Avengers team Tony and Cap are assembling.
This confrontation is in the last issue and makes the entire book worth reading. The stuff with A.I.M., et al., is actually kinda boring and also involves some kind of planetoid that has been hurled through time and space at Earth. A ridiculous and complicated device is used to somehow trap this planetoid in the same time/space, um, space of this Earth, ostensibly to be used as a weapon by Stark. It really sucked that there was no drama about this planetoid. Almost a month is skipped between it's discovery and elimination as a threat, three pages or so later. It isn't until the Banner/Stark showdown that the reader really feels there is something of urgency happening in the background. This makes it hard to read the preceding part of the story. With the previous Incursions that have happened, for no one else to know about it seems rather silly to me.
Anyway, I guess this is a 2.5/5 read for me. I really want Hickman to make me feel concerned about Earth-616 and the coming Incursion, like he does (usually) over in New Avengers. For now, though, it's on the back burner and I can't understand why our intrepid heroes would allow that. *shrugs* -
"Heroes fight evil versions of themselves" is just about the oldest story in the superhero book. Of course, this being Hickman, he ups the civilian casualty rate considerably. I get that "even heroes can't save us!" is a recurring theme in his run, but seriously...his Avengers are starting to seem really incompetent. It feels like every issue they allow at least 200 civilians to get obliterated. If I was S.H.I.E.L.D. I'd seriously consider looking to hire a new team of super-powered freaks...
Anyways, this silly plot springs from the A.I.M. storyline from previous volumes of Avengers, but its main purpose is to serve as a bridge between this title and Hickman's New Avengers. The final issue here, where [REDACTED] finds out about the Illuminati's existence and uses the evil version of [REDACTED] to confront [REDACTED] over it, makes the whole thing worthwhile. It possesses a sense of tension and purpose that the preceding issues lack. It also won't make a lick of sense if you haven't read at least
the first volume of New Avengers, so get on that if you haven't already.
ART NOTE: Esad Ribic is the best. Salvador Larocca is better here than in previous things I've read. -
Do yourself a favor. Don’t read this.
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Big, Dangerous things are afoot in this book. Stuff that doesn't involve emotionless avatars from other dimensions (at least not to our knowledge).
So that means Hickman's not a dick this time around.
And there’s a brief frisson of humour even:
And yet...the horrors of the end up feeling cold, like I should care but there are currently no stakes. Or maybe the stakes are so much higher than this gang invading, that this is merely a blip.
For once, the AIM scientists are more fun than the alterna-reality versions of heroes. What gives man? Did Hickman slip us a phase-shifting mickey? This does not compute.
Finally, a bunch of talking between a couple of characters - attempts by Hickman to create some interpersonal tension in a two-person scene, that ultimately leaves me confused: was that 616 Bruce or the other guy? Why did Bruce think that talking would be better than just Hulking his way into the inner sanctum of truth? Did he want it stopped, or did he just feel left out of the fun? -
***second read***
Man, this is where shit gets a lot cooler. The spoilers are mapmakers?! Dope!!! So many spoilery revelations. I love this run so much.
*****first read*****
I liked this a lot better than previous Hickman Avengers stuff. He’s hit his stride. It’s still trippy... but the trippyness is more streamlined and, quite frankly, easier for my little pea brain to understand.
I’m genuinely stoked to see how things develop with the mapmakers and the incursions.
Bruce Banner finding out a certain upsetting thing and revealing what was in his briefcase was an awesome moment. The end of this has many moments I consider pretty awesome.
A big step up from the first 3 volumes and infinity. I look forward to seeing where it goes, and the art was beautiful. -
playing catch up on this series has backfired because I already read Secret wars. Oh well I still enjoyed the story. Hickman does a fine job at setting up for an epic earth colliding event. Salvatore Larroca is a great artist, I love his attention to detail and crisp line work. AIM is back at it and messing with science they shouldn't be. Tony is keeping secrets and this doesn't surprise anyone including Banner. The multiverse is in trouble and its gonna take everything to save it, or ya know.... it will all just fail.
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I'm a bit of a sucker for alternate reality stories. So I enjoyed this one. Post-Infinity Avengers are less meander-y than the overwhelming majority of Hickman's run. His stories can get too big and abstract with no end in sight. This one at least had more contained and focused sub stories. The larger narrative continues to grow.
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This series descended into absolute fucking gobbledygook. The first volume was stellar. The second was good. Everything after that is just varying levels of nonsense. I have a love/hate relationship with Hickman at this point. This is a book filled with him cramming magical science into every nook and cranny under the guise of it being interesting.
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This is a great story, but a bit all over the place.
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After a fun break for Infinity, Hickman is back to building his Incursion story. Everything dies, blah blah. Since all the Earths of every universe are eventually going to collide, it was only a matter of time before we met some evil Avengers. In this case, the meddling of A.I.M. is what brings them to Earth 616. A.I.M.is also revealed to be tied to the Mapmakers – a powerful race that Black Swan mentions.
This volume was a muddled mess. In addition to the two Avengers teams going head to head, we have a time traveler from the future (how is there a future if everything dies?) here to warn Tony Stark about a rogue planet about to collide with Earth. Meh. What makes this planet so dire when all the universes are colliding anyway?
Overall, the only thing that made this volume worth reading was seeing Banner figure out that something was up and his introduction to the Illuminati. The incursion storyline is just not that compelling since our heroes can do nothing but talk about it. -
Kind of a big letdown after how good the infinity crossover was.
There are 5 issues collected, the first four deal with AIM and the multiverse and are overly complex and hard to follow. The last one deals with Hulk and Illuminati and is better, still overall this gets 2 stars....
In terms of content we get only 5 collected issues instead of the usual 6 for the same price, so not a greal deal either... -
Pues nuevo arco de los Vengadores de Jonathan Hickman, y de momento, el más flojito de lo que llevo leído. Que también iba tocando, es difícil mantener una historia larga en unos niveles tan altos como los que habíamos tenido hasta este momento, es muy fácil ser un Mark Millar o un Warren Ellis que llega y hace seis números de una serie y se pira y todo es "ooooh", "aaaaah". Pero bueno, vamos por Adaptate o Muere, o, como se tradujo aquí, Planeta Rebelde (es curioso que del arco, cogieran para el título el "capítulo suelto" de este).
Este arco nos cuenta la historia de unos Vengadores procedentes de una tierra alternativa, de una de esas moribundas que se están destruyendo en las Incursiones que aparecen en Nuevos Vengadores, y que antes de la destrucción saltaron a la Tierra 616. La alineación del equipo es la original de los Vengadores (y una que realmente nunca tuvo lugar, pues el Capitán América y Hulk nunca coincidieron en el equipo), con Iron Man, Thor, la Avispa y el Hombre Hormiga, Hulk y el Capitán América... pero en su mundo son villanos y asesinos de masas, y aquí, por suerte o por desgracia, van a caer en manos de IMA, que está investigando los resultados de estas Incursiones. Estos Vengadores escapan de IMA y estos envían tras ellos a un grupo de Superadaptoides (de ahí el título original de la saga), también con los poderes de los Vengadores. Y bueno, la aparición de un Hank Pym muerto, hace que María Hill intervenga, y con ella, los Vengadores oficiales, que se las tienen que ver con sus dobles de otra Tierra.
La historia en sí no es muy allá, la verdad, tiene buen ritmo, es entretenida... pero no tiene mucho más, y de hecho, me parece una excusa para que Hickman pudiera llevarse a Banner a los Nuevos Vengadores, pero al menos es un excusa bien montada. Y es una lástima, pero mira que me gustan Esad Ribic y sobre todo Salvador Larroca, pero tampoco están especialmente brillantes en esta trama. Aún así, aprobado. -
You know, I like Jonathan Hickman's writing outside of the Marvel Universe. East of West, Black Monday Murders, the Manhattan Projects. But his Avengers series has really not done anything for me.
At least this volume tells most of a single story. I mean, aside from the 'All-New Invaders' #1 issue that's just thrown in randomly between the fifth and sixth issues of the main plot that has literally nothing to do with anything else in the book. The rest tells one story, although coherent may be a bit of a stretch. Something about vibrationally discrete Earths overlapping each other, adaptoids that 'adapt' to overcome their programming (because no one saw that coming), and an Avengers team that is cribbing from DC's Injustice League. There are moments that are good - Banner facing himself down was good, and Bruce facing down Tony was better. But A.I.M. plays too big a role and there's only one real fight scene in the whole collection. The art has its moments, and the use of desaturation for the adaptoids and primary colors for the 'other Avengers' is a nice touch. But all told, I'm still very unimpressed by Hickman's Avengers run. I missed one volume, but I don't think that explains it. I just think I'm not invested enough in the Marvel comic universe to see what he's doing here. -
Bir göz önündeki olaylar var bir de arkada gelişen olaylar. Göz önündeki olayda Avengers başka boyuttan gelen kötü Avengers'la dövüştü. AIM de başta Avengers melezleri halinde olan adaptaoidler yarattı. Ben onların da kavgaya dahil olabileceğini düşünmüştüm fakat onların amacı farklıydı. Onlar arkadan ilerleyen olay için varmış. Çoklu evrenlerin çöküşü yaklaşırken Bruce Tony'nin bir işler çevirdiğini anlıyor ve onunla yüzleşiyor. Tabii bu yüzleşme esnasında epey bir sakinleştirici alıyor. Bir zamanlar kendisini uzaya fırlatan Illuminati ekibi tekrar kurulmuşken o kızmasın da kim kızsın. Öfkesini atıp rahatladıktan sonra artık o da ekibin bir parçası.
Kendi kötü ikizleriyle dövüşme kısmı fena değildi fakat aşırı kullanılmış ve artık sıkmış bir formül. Secret Wars'a giden yol zaman zaman sancılı olsa da bir şekilde devam ediyor. -
Hickman’s Avengers continues with volume 5; Adapt or Die. A continuation of my reread of the series.
Adapt or Die picks up after the events of Infinity. The threat of the Infinity event has been dealt with, but the whole issue around the end of the multiverse is still out there.
This volume actually felt a bit more like a standard Avengers story for the most part. We have the villainous organisation of A.I.M. wreaking havoc, some time travel and an out of control planet, Thor hosting a BBQ, and multiversal doppelgängers of the Avengers. This all comes to a head when one of the Avengers works out what is going on with the multiverse and the New Avengers team.
Even though this roster of the Avengers has got quite large, this volume does tighten to focus on mainly a couple different members. Iron Man in particular gets a lot of page time.
Overall a good continuation of the story, slowly building up towards the next big event. -
Why am I reading this garbage?
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Minu arvamuse leiab blogist
https://triinuraamatud.wordpress.com/... -
Oh, good god, between the pseudoscientific gobbledygook (par for the course with comics), Hickman writing larger and larger in less and less comprehensible ways, the AIM Comedy Mad Scientists (in ever more outrageous variants of the beekeeper suits) and the blatant rip-off of the DC Comics Crime Syndicate and the basic plot of Forever Evil...well, never mind.
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Hickman is on a roll. Wow I thoroughly enjoyed this book his big picture is making sense. This is one part mystery novel one part sci-fi. Enjoyable. I probably would not have gotten what was happening if I had read these individually but the trade made it make sense. I can't wait for the next one.
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Cool stuff happening here! I especially like it when Hickman has strong artists to translate his ideas!
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Some interesting stuff around the edges, but too much of this is about a battle with evil Avengers from another dimension - generic stuff that seems beneath a writer of Hickman's calibre.
