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book felt like two academic people talking past each other repeatedly, and quibbling over incredibly minute points of terminology without taking the other's arguments headon.
Both stay respectful and occasionally playful though Randal is clearly approaching it more as a debate to be won than Justin is.
Randal's upbeat energy keeps it moving, but that energy is generally a giddy excitement over trying to score his next point, which isn't particularly endearing if the other guy isn't playing this as a game to win.
Randal's humor also felt a little too cheesy and forced sometimes, but YMMV, Overall, I went into it wanting to learn and understand more about both sides in an informal way, and to a certain extent I did, but I think the discussions were often more pedantic than informative.
The book centred around interesting topics, The idea of a theist and an atheist having discussions in a bar was also pretty cool, However, Randal Rauser ruined this book with his corny and cheesy humor, Justin Schieber is a clear thinker but never seems to push his arguments or points to their full extent, Instead, he plays along with annoying jokes and oneliners from Rauser ruining what could have been a terrific book in the end.
Is there anything that can't be gainsaid I'm sure even this sentence could be, Rauser and Schieber bring this to mind in that they're unable to come to agreement on much of anything, There's always some small escape hatch that allows us to deny even the most plausible reasoning, It highlights the liability of evidentialist approaches to apologetics, These are important, but insufficient,

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If you're looking for answers to ageold theological questions, this isn't where to go.
Instead what you have here is an ode to dialogue, an escape from the mediocre apologetic literature of the alreadydecided, This is hard philosophy and a demand for educating yourself to know more than you currently do, It's possible to disagree about fundamental questions and still be friendly and perhaps even friends, These two show the way through a respectful dialogue, silly humor and a love of questions, This was kind of disappointing, I expected much more in the way of thought out arguments, Also, I think Justin Schieber could have been a bit stronger in his rhetoric, He was too forgiving of the interruptions and often mocking, even condescending, attitude of his christian coauthor, Rauser, That being said, there are some interesting points raised by both authors but there is also a lot of illogical, irrational crap.
Genre: Christion Living, Christian theology, Atheist beliefs
My stars
Language: Honestly I was shocked to see that there was a D in the book.
However, after that one, it was clean,
Age Range:
Content: Pretty clean, There is a section briefly talking about sexual pleasure,

Conclusion: Well I love biblical theology and the study of God, the Bible, and the universe, . . this was not enjoyable. In fact, it was rather boring, They couldn't agree to anything important which makes sense but was still irritating, Using bigs words, a lot of analogies, I still left with the feeling that they had no idea what the other person was talking about.
I did finish the book, but it was close to being a DNF book, Light and fluffy. Very cordial.

The protagonist opponents get along very well, such a great place to start, zero personal attacks etc, disappointingly lacks substance. On the plus side the Atheist finally hits his stride in the evolution section, the theist once at least acknowledged the possibility of being wrong.
A few straw men. A faux claim to not be an apologist, Way way too many simplistic analogies, faith in a Sherpa implicitly compared to faith in a god etc zero evidence for the gods , we can see mountains, observe Sherpas etc.
The part on testimony was under explored, the obvious nature of contradictory testimony could have been kicked around a lot more.


"At least as Ive understood it, classical theism assumes a nonphysical agent God who is omniscient, omnipotent, and perfectly good.
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They both agree on this definition as a place to start, As this is obviously not true , it may have been a good place to finish very heady, and while I appreciate how they were trying to demonstrate the reality of dialogue in book form, it seemed to be rather dense and often pointless.
but it did serve as a reminder of the complexities of our world, and how two intelligent people can approach the same question and get completely different answers! I think we should rely on the Holy Spirit for spiritual knowledge much more than we do.
The book was OK. Mediocre. The format was a dialogue between a theist Rauser and an atheist Schieber, I didn't feel like any of the arguments were extremely strong on either side, Perhaps this is because the format didn't allow much depth,
Rauser doesn't argue for a biblical presentation of God in this book, The debate is centered on the existence of God however that may be defined, Rauser wouldn't please many Christians with the room he has to give up in order to maintain a seat at the philosophical table.

Overall, I don't think I will be recommending this book to any theists or atheists, A worthy effort by two evenly matched opponents, yet more enjoyable than most such exchanges in that authors Rauser and Schieber obviously respect each other.
Not sure they got to choose their title, Schieber was called upon to defend the implications of a materialism I'm not sure he holds, while Rauser defended a God of the Philosophers bare theism rather than the trinitarianmonotheism of biblical Christianity.
I'd buy a sequel, but next time I'd hold out for paper rather than use the Kindle app on my smartphone again.
DNF. Got about a third of the way through, Randal and Justin certainly exchange in an insightful dialogue the world needs a great deal more of such civil and intelligent discussion amidst people who very much disagree.
This book sets an amazing precedent, But this also work seems to rabbit trail a lot, delving deep into subjects that held minimal interest to me personally.
Also, I was disappointed that Rauser seems to continue merely playing defense, As an apologist, he often seems more concerned with defending the coherence of Christian belief against critiques and pointing nuances that often get overlooked which he certainly excels at than he seems to be concerned in illustrating why Christianity is probable.
I wanted to see him play offense more in this discussion one of the primary reasons why I read this work was in order to hopefully find out why he believes that Christianity is true.
Having said that, Rauser nonetheless still does seem to gain the upper hand in this dialogue, as he seems overall successful in rebutting most of Justin's critiques, even if he does not do much in the way of critiquing Justin's atheistic worldview.
The question of God is simply too importantand too interestingto leave to angry polemicists, That is the premise of this friendly, straightforward, and rigorous dialogue between Christian theologian Randal Rauser and atheist Justin Schieber, Setting aside the formality of the traditional debate, the authors invite the reader to join them in an extended, informal conversation.
This has the advantage of easing readers into thorny topics that in a debate setting can easily become confusing or difficult to follow.


Like any good conversation, this one involves provocative arguments, amusing anecdotes, and some lively banter, Rauser and Schieber begin with the question of why debates about God still matter, They then delve into a number of important topics: the place of reason and faith, the radically different concepts of God in various cultures, morality and its traditional connection with religious beliefs, the problem of a universe that is overwhelmingly hostile to life as we know it, mathematical truths and what they may or may not say about the existence of God, the challenge of suffering and evil to belief in God, and more.


Refreshingly upbeat and amicable throughout, this stimulating conversation between two friends from opposing points of view is an ideal introduction to a perennial topic of debate.
Two friends Christian apologist, Randall Rauser, and atheist Justin Shiebber embark on a dialogue looking at two competing worldviews theism and atheism.
Topics discussed include science and God particularly evolution, moral and philosophical debates, What makes this book unique is that it is not actually a Christian apologetics book, The point is not to convert someone to one side or other of the debate, rather it is simply used as a tool for discussion where both parties respectfully submit their views and listen to one another.
I appreciated how the tone of the conversation was as friends, Questions were raised and discussed and then dropped and the tone of the book was written so that you could almost envision the

two individuals speaking with one another.
Due to the fact that it was not an actual debate, there were also humorous intervals and a few red herrings thrown in.
The only thing is, though, that this book is quite academic, Which meant it was a bit hard to plough through as it was clearly written for an intelligent audience, I know that I technically did study this type of thing in school and I suppose from that viewpoint I did enjoy it, but it's definitely not a light read if that's what you're looking for.
I enjoyed reading this, both authors are clearly widely read, know their topics well and so it ends up being both intellectually stimulating and challenging.
Neither author holds back in defending their corner but they are also incredibly charitable about each other and their respective views.
Grab a copy! Randal Rauser is a systematic and analytic theologian of evangelical persuasion, He is driven by apologetic concerns and above all by the tireless pursuit of truth, The downside is that this requires him to recognize when he is wrong which is often for truth is complex and it offers us no guarantees that we shall always find it.
At the same time, Randal does not despair of finding truth, for he believes that in a profound sense Jesus Christ is the truth.
For Randal, being like Jesus means knowing the truth, loving the truth, and living the truth, As Randal seeks to live the truth he promotes a culture of life that is anti militaristic and pro family, pro environment and anti abortion, anti consumerist and pro animal.
A disciple on the way Randal Rauser is a systematic and analytic theologian of evangelical persuasion, He is driven by apologetic concerns and above all by the tireless pursuit of truth, The downside is that this requires him to recognize when he is wrong which is often for truth is complex and it offers us no guarantees that we shall always find it.
At the same time, Randal does not despair of finding truth, for he believes that in a profound sense Jesus Christ is the truth.
For Randal, being like Jesus means knowing the truth, loving the truth, and living the truth, As Randal seeks to live the truth he promotes a culture of life that is anti militaristic and pro family, pro environment and anti abortion, anti consumerist and pro animal.
A disciple on the way alas, he is not half as smart or as good or as right as he thinks he is.
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