I Can't Talk About the Trees Without the Blood by Tiana Clark


I Can't Talk About the Trees Without the Blood
Title : I Can't Talk About the Trees Without the Blood
Author :
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ISBN : 0822965585
ISBN-10 : 9780822965589
Language : English
Format Type : Paperback
Number of Pages : 112
Publication : First published September 18, 2018
Awards : Kate Tufts Discovery Award (2020)

Winner of the 2017 Agnes Lynch Starrett Poetry Prize

For poet Tiana Clark, trees will never be just trees. They will also and always be a row of gallows from which Black bodies once swung. This is an image that she cannot escape, but one that she has learned to lean into as she delves into personal and public histories, explicating memories and muses around race, elegy, family, and faith by making and breaking forms as well as probing mythology, literary history, her own ancestry, and, yes, even Rihanna. I Can’t Talk About the Trees without the Blood, because Tiana cannot engage with the physical and psychic landscape of the South without seeing the braided trauma of the broken past—she will always see blood on the leaves.


I Can't Talk About the Trees Without the Blood Reviews


  • Samantha

    Y'all, I'm really just mad at myself for not reading this sooner, because goodNESS. A rich, thick stew of a book I will definitely return to.

  • Misha

    So many incredible poems and lines in here. This is a collection that bears reflection, re-reading, repeating. The poem about having a conversation with her white mother-in-law about taking some family photographs on a plantation--Soil Horizon--was shattering. So glad I came across this book in an online article. A poet to watch, follow, and listen to with open ears.

    From The Rime of Nina Simone:
    "Yes. This:
    I need to be here--in the workshop.
    I must look them in the face
    and tell them when their words
    and worlds are making me uncomfortable.

    Tell them when my chest tightens and flares up
    when they try to conjure the other, a fantastic
    field of fictitious black and brown bodies.

    Tell them my body is real--not imagined,
    not a prop or a sieve or a literary device.
    Not foil. Not craft. Not carnal. Not chocolate.
    Not mammy or mask or persona. Not opposite
    of the white gaze. I must tell them that my:
    lips/butt/haircurlers are mine/urban/slang/long
    fingernails/arrested/dialectic are mine/burning
    erotic hottentot/blue bandanna/Beyoncé/like-like
    liquor/blasting the classroom with my noisy stereo-
    types, shouting: I. A. Here. You cannot write
    around me. The periphery is also mine. I'm not
    afraid to take up space I need to survive.
    I'm not afraid to write what I need to survive."

  • Anne

    This is the second book I’ve read by Tiana Clark. I love her style, but I’m also convinced she’s one of our most important contemporary poets. Every poem is a knockout.

  • Ruth

    So wonderful. I feel lucky to be living in the time of Tiana Clark.

  • Eve Barrett

    3.5

  • Karis

    i read this through the library! i want to revisit and revisit this collection and also write all over it so perhaps i should buy it now

  • Elvis Alves

    THIS REVIEW FIRST APPEARED IN THE ADIRONDACK REVIEW

    I Can’t Talk About The Trees Without The Blood is a gripping collection of poetry. Clark is adroit at bringing the reader into the scenes she paints with words. Not all writers are capable of this, and the fact that Clark employs it in a seamless way gives credence to the reasons why her work is worth reading.

    In “Soil Horizon,” Clark is called by her white mother-in-law to a Tennessee plantation for a family portrait. The mother-in-law sees the taking of the portrait on the plantation as an act of redeeming the past. Clark writes that the history of the plantation is covered up by its present usage, “...now it is sold out for summer weddings with sweating mint juleps in silver cups, cannons burst with weekend reenactments, and photo shoots for graduation, pregnant couples, and my new family.” For Clark, history cannot be wiped clean. She writes, “How do we stand on the dead and smile? I carry so many black souls in my skin, sometimes I swear it vibrates, like a tuning fork when struck.” Clark does not appear interested in redemption but in remembering black lives affected by the weight of slavery.

    In the collection, Clark writes about Phillis Wheatley, Emmett Till, Trayvon Martin, and Kalief Browder with the same clarity and urgency that she writes about her life. This continuum conflates personal history with broader social history, reminding us that the two are not mutually exclusive.


    When I think of Trayvon Martin, I think of Emmett Till, when I think of Emmett Till, I
    think of young, black men in the South, then I think of young, white men in the South, I
    think of my husband, who is white, born and raised in Franklin, TN. I think of how when
    he tries to hold my hand, sometimes I pull away and not because I don’t love him, but
    because I’m alert… So when I think about a post-racial America, I don’t—because the
    trees in the South have strange fruit histories.
    (“The Ayes Have It”)

    Clark stays with the pain that comes with living in a black body in America. This is vividly depicted in “The Rime of Nina Simone,” a persona poem that is the centerpiece of the collection. In the poem, Clark brings back Simone from the dead. They meet on the campus where Clark is working toward her MFA. In the conversation, Simone asks, “Do they want you...or your black pain?” And, “Why do you keep panting & hunting black hurt, black scars like a slave-breaker? Why scratch the white page, a master, for old blood?” Clark answers,

    Because I listen to the trees humming through the poplar leaves and Southern magnolias.
    Bloated faces, these beauteous forms, still swinging, limp pendulum, waxy bleach-white
    blooms, egg whites inside hardboiled eyes sway and rock, roll forward, fragrant. I’m
    ready to find the ruined churches.

    She is describing lynching here, terror against the black body that involved trees and blood. The interrogation is not to dissuade Clark from writing about her pain or black pain (Clark tells Simone that she needs to confront her white classmates “...when they try to conjure the other, a fantastic field of fictitious black and brown bodies”) but to empower her. Simone encourages her on this path,

    It’s not enough for you to be young, gifted, black and angry or write about the body, The
    body, The body. The body… she says, mocking me with her hands, then points her
    diaphanous finger in my face—You have to stay mad your whole damn life. You have to
    make love to the damage in your mind—return to the throbbing meadow you know will
    pang when you enter the middle of its wild scrape.

    Clark enters the classroom “bewitched—ready to flame…” after the talk with Simone. The pain does not swallow her because she writes and talks about it in rooted ways.

    The theme of blood and trees shows up in several of the poems, including “First Blood.” The poem is a recollection about climbing a tree with childhood white male friends and attempting to pee like a boy but peeing on the self. Clark moves past the shame of this moment, “After then, I didn’t play with the white boys anymore. It did not matter. I would soon be all woman. I would soon know about the blood.” This poem and others of the kind remind one of the poems of Lucille Clifton that talk about womanhood. In this way, Clark is carrying the mantle of Clifton and other great black female poets that preceded her.

    Some of the poems talk about the absence of a father, “My daddy is what is always at stake in my work. I want to know if he is still alive—if he thinks of me as often as I think of him” (“In the Middle of Things”). Some of the weight of the absence is lifted by the presence of a mother. In “Mother Driving Away After Christmas,” Clark imagines that her mother is not alone because “Other cars swim around her silence like plump, metal fish…” and ends the poem by referencing when she was pregnant with her, “her one good thing inside this hurt, traveling home.” In a similar fashion, Clark’s poems give birth to feelings tied to the pain of history, while making something of it. Nina Simone would agree with this and more.

    The collection is heartfelt and serious primarily in how it uses history, the personal and social, in poetic form infused with emotions and intelligence. The poems speak to the past—to what is worth remembering because it makes us who we are. This brave endeavor not only requires an adequate command of history but the wit to bear the soul at each teachable moment. After all, seeking and telling the truth is an arduous but necessary task, and those who do it in a way that says all of us can and should do it, deserve recognition. For this, we are grateful to Tiana Clark and must read her work.

  • Kirsten

    Intensely powerful, personal poems about race and racism. This blew me away.

  • Avery Guess

    I loved this the first time I read it, and I love it even more after reading it again and getting ready to teach it to my Introduction to Creative Writing students. This is such a rich collection, and it definitely rewards rereading.

  • Jo'van O'neal

    Wow Tiana SNAPPED. An amazing debut collection.

  • Renee Morales

    i started this book last year so i’m kinda cheating but i finished it today so whatever.

    yeah this is the best book of poetry i’ve ever read in my life. sarah gave this to me for my birthday in 2022 and i continuously found myself shocked at how visceral the poems felt. the magnitude of the language. the violence. the sickening and tragic beauty of blackness, brownness, sex, intimacy, femininity, pain.

    there were so many poems here i struggled to finish because i just felt queasy with how relatable they were. as a poet myself, “The Rime of Nina Simone” was literally triggering. like so fucking triggering. it was phenomenal.

    my favorite kind of poems are the ones who are unabashedly loud and occupying. tiana clark writes in such a way that is difficult to look away from. she is commanding, powerful, angry, black, and woman. she is magical, in every sense of the word. she’s the kind of writer you want to keep on your body at all times in case inspiration strikes. in case you need some thing and some one to push you to be greater.

    “Bewitched—ready to flame: I enter the room— / bursting.”

    i could not recommend a book of poetry more.

  • Leah Rachel von Essen

    Tiana Clark's I Can't Talk About the Trees Without the Blood is an absolutely gorgeous and impactful poetry collection. From the epic "The Rime of Nina Simone" to her meditations on her interracial marriage—in poems like "After Amistad," on watching the film beside him, and "Soul Horizon," where her husband's mother wants to take the family portrait at a plantation—Clark's poems are incredible, lyrical, and gorgeous. She ruminates on the historic trauma that she cannot escape, through literary history, through Rihanna, through poems of mourning, childhood bullies, sexual assault, through the story of institutionalized segregation and lasting racism captured in introduction poem "Nashville." Clark's poetry is breath-taking on every page. It's in the running for one of my favorite reads of the year.

  • Mike Good

    I wrote a review of this collection, which you can read at Full-Stop.net. Here is the first sentence:

    Tiana Clark’s I Can’t Talk about the Trees without the Blood explores an ongoing epiphanic challenge — that we can’t fully appreciate the beauty of the world without also fully acknowledging its pain.


    http://www.full-stop.net/2020/01/02/r...

  • Sarah

    Wow. It's been a long time since I have been so moved by contemporary poetry. This book hits you in the gut. It's excellently written. I feel like I will have to reread this several times to fully catch everything. Every word counts. The spacing is so unique, it's like mini poems within poems. Tiana Clark is an incredible poet. This is a necessary read. She dives into very hard topics like racism and it is so intense and beautifully articulated. I checked this out from the library, but now I want to buy it- because it's a masterpiece that I will reread again and again.

  • Ellen

    For me, one of the ironic blessings of the Covid pandemic has been rediscovering and wantonly indulging my love of poetry. I hear Tracy K. Smith’s soft, earthy caress of a voice in my head, her measured, yet searingly vulnerable dance of the mind and heart. I cry for Natasha Tretheway’s sorrow laid bare beside her rage. Lucille Clifton, Araceli’s Girmay, Ada Limoncellos

  • Angela

    Stunning, gorgeous, and smart. I was hand-sold this in the Nashville Bookshop this past February right before the pandemic. So glad I own this collection so I can revisit it again.

  • Ping

    A unique and vivid portrayal of black trauma and personal pain. The centerpiece and star, if you're looking to read just one of her poems, would undoubtedly seem to be "The Rime of Nina Simone."

  • Christina

    One of my favorite new poets. I love the quality, the passion, the form and the technique in this book. I can read it again and again.

  • Ceallaigh

    “all I hear is your name falling / & beating Kalief Kalief KaliefKaliefKalief / this is such a poor offering but I am pouring it on the ground / like good rain & whatever softens the earth is your name / whatever might grow from that darkening bright spot is your name…

    “& Kalief / what is there to say / after so much rain / the ground is swollen with your name”
    — from “800 Days: Libation”


    TITLE—I Can’t Talk About the Trees Without the Blood
    AUTHOR—Tiana Clark
    PUBLISHED—2018

    “How do we stand on the dead and smile? I carry so many black souls / in my skin, sometimes I swear it vibrates, like a tuning fork when struck.” — from “Soil Horizon”


    GENRE—poetry
    MAIN THEMES—the Black experience, Black culture, biracial identity, sex, racism, the South, Christianity, parental relationships, art, trauma

    “I was crushed. I am crushing / the flood, overwhelming. What now? / There is a dead cockroach in the corner. / I won’t pick it up. I keep sweeping / (around) / the thing on the floor.” — from “Dead Bug”


    WRITING STYLE—⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
    CHARACTERS—n/a
    PLOT—n/a
    BONUS ELEMENT/S— the poem after Nina Simone (one of my favorite musicians) was my favorite! I also loved the poem about Kalief Browder 😔, and “Soil Horizon” and “Dead Bug.”
    PHILOSOPHY—⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

    These poems were definitely not a comfortable read but Clark’s voice, raw feeling, and brutal forthrightness along with her gorgeous command of language and poetic structure made the journey well worth the pain.

    “You have to stay mad / your whole damn life.” — from “The Rime of Nina Simone”


    TW // racism, racial slurs, sexual assault, sexual content, sexual violence, religious bigotry

    Further Reading—
    - Equilibrium, by Tiana Clark
    - Collected Poems: 1950-2012, by Adrienne Rich
    - Citizen: An American Lyric, by Claudia Rankine
    - In the Mecca, by Gwendolyn Brooks
    - The Essential Gwendolyn Brooks
    - Complete Writings, by Phillis Wheatley

  • Megan

    Many of these poems left me speechless. I usually read a book of poetry in about two days, but this one begged to be read slowly so I could digest everything.

  • Amie Whittemore

    Read my full review here:
    https://www.usi.edu/sir/reviews/the-m...

  • Carrie Chappell

    "The Rime of Nina Simone" is one of the best poems I've read in a long time.

  • Cedric

    A remarkably personal work on biracial identity, interracial marriage, and the looming shadow cast by the legacy of American race policy over one American life. Clark comes to topics as varied as conceding self-consciousness over holding her white husband's hand (especially in the South), a loving, if fraught relationship with a black mother and an (absent white) father, and rape with an honesty that is frequently uncomfortable. I think a reader comes away knowing she has very clearly not sought peace with her subjects, but catharsis for herself.

    There is so much to recommend-the imagined correspondence of church friends Obour Tanner and Phyllis Wheatley (only Phyllis' letters to Tanner are extant) demonstrates an inventiveness to be envied. Arguably the collection's best work is herein:

    I'm a savage. There is savage-me, inside, wild-thick as sin, so much my soul/is clabbered, but there is a Change, I sense, inside my curdled mess, Christ hung/

    and crucified in me, daily, a Saving Change. The ship. Do you feel the ship, pitching, /sometimes, inside the skin under your skin...

    Remember the ships

    that brought us over the bent world. Let us praise these wooden beasts that saved the/the evil beasts of us...

    -from "Conversation With Phyllis Wheatley #14"

    This, from "Where the Fired Body is Porous," of a white lover:

    ...

    He is reaching for my kitchen.

    Unruly secret at the nape of my neck.

    Hush now—
    : All those gleaming pots and pans.
    : All those cabinets I keep shut. Hush.

    I am undone and open.

    No order is here/ can’t find nuthin’ back there/ except
    a little me/ in a chair by the stove:
    hot comb on the black burner, another red tornado.
    Mama standing,
    bowing my head downward—bending me

    into a black comma.

    Pressing my hair—smooth.

    Holding back my ears as I hold back my breath.

    Gettin’ cooked. Always afraid mama
    would burn me

    ...

    --------
    Other faves include the extremely distrubing "Dead Bug"; "BBHMM," after Rihanna, admiringly; and "Ways to Be Saved"- Number 5 is, simply, "Solange." (You don't need to be a "poetry expert" to enjoy this work-while the explanation of "the kitchen" is one I might have left certain folk to dig up on their own, I really appreciate the copious notes in back, which explains much that might be unclear or necessary to know for understanding the work.) Check her out on YouTube-she is an extremely moving reader and there are plenty of vids of her reading there. And pick this one up-I hate that I've gotten to it two years late.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIF9d...

  • Laura Hoffman Brauman

    Trying to review poetry always reminds me that I'm not sure I have the literary analytical skills necessary to do it justice - so this is really more a reflection on my experience reading Clark's work. Her work feels deeply personal - the opening poem, Nashville, speaks to the way the city was divided and the Black community separated by the construction of interstates, while also examining the way Black culture was appropriated - all of which seems more commentary rather than personal until she ties it together with someone yelling a racial slur at her husband and she pulls on all the threads. Several other poems that stood out for me in this excellent collection include Soil Horizon - speaks to request from her mother-in-law to take family pictures at a nearby plantation, The Ayes Have it (those ending lines had me setting the book down so I could spend time dwelling on them), and Mother Driving Away After Christmas - so evocative you feel like you are in the car with her mother.

    From a style/format perspective -- often times when I read poetry that works with spacing, line breaks, punctuation, etc - I don't get a clear impact of those decisions in my reading experience. With this collection, those elements crafted and contributed to my reading experience - it made me pause at what seemed like exactly the right moment, linger at times, and speed up when the rhythm of the language and structure compelled me forward. It was impressive to see Clark's choices have such a significant impact on my reading experience.

    At the end of the collection, there are notes on some of the poems. In hindsight, I wish I had seen the notes before I started reading. In a few cases, reading the note about the poem would have given me additional context that would have impacted my reading of the work.

    This is an excellent collection - one well worth taking your time with and savoring - and one I wish more people were talking about.

  • Ruby

    "I turned around to find the voice and saw myself as someone who didn't give a damn."

    "There is always a word I'm chasing inside and outside of my body, a word inside another word, scanning..."

    "I've been standing by water my whole damn life trying to get saved."

    "How do we stand on the dead and smile?"

    "I was named like all things are named: after the things that carry them."

    "...how rain wraps round a tornado is a type of sorrow because no one knows how to fathom damage inside someone's eyes could be the weather just after or before a storm..."

    "So when I think about a post-racial america, I don't-because the trees in the South have strange fruit histories..."

    "Do they want you, she says, sucking her ghost teeth, or your black pain?"

    "I wanted freedom from freedom."

    "The body is a ship constantly cutting lathering water in the way ships yearn for imagined shores, bobbing in the immediate distances."

    "Look, if you can write about anything you want, Then write. About. Anything. You want. Why do you keep panting & hunting black hurt, black scars like a slave-breaker? Why scratch the white page, a master, for old blood? Like a god, you are so thirsty, hell-bent on carving beauty from dead bodies from sacrifice on the altar."

    "I must look them in the face and tell them when their words and worlds are making me uncomfortable."

    "I'm not afraid to take up the space I need to survive. I'm not afraid to write what I need to survive."

    "Because poems are part animal + part pain machine tearing at flesh, holy somatic control, I guess."

    "Why can't we thrive in something rich and green too? And let us be loud about it? Let us be loud without consequence."

  • Jeff

    Tiana Clark's first full-length collection doesn't include "Equilibrium," the poem that really opened her work for me, nor her recent poem on "The Bachelorette," that demonstrates the flow her images often work on her reader. Clark's poems have an exciting magisterial indifference, as frequently the language has a more interested historical tail than Clark's use of it might suppose. The images are flowing with a kind of pop glamour I relate to Nikki Giovanni, though structurally they're more ambitious than that, as the parody of Coleridgean "Rime," "The Rime of Nina Simone," would use a doubled narration to conjure a dream of Simone's spell on Clark. The poem seems based almost entirely on Clark's experience of the Nina Simone doc, What Happened, Miss Simone?, though the notes claim some inspiration from Simone's autobiography, as well. Ultimately, Simone is only arguably there at all, but the fantasia has brought in lynchings, the middle passage, Hayden, Dickinson -- you name it, chaos, in short. There are efforts to tune, to flatten, to make gaps that ironize and demand the reader's involvement. She's better at that elsewhere in the collection, as in "Mixed Bitch," and "Soil Horizon," both full of gallows wit. At one point, in a poem on Rihanna, her narrator cops to being stimulated by images, but then complains, "I hate it when people | talk about black artists being capitalists." When James Brown went to the White House in 1972 to talk to Nixon about black capitalism, was Nina Simone betrayed?

  • Ja'net

    So I took my time reading this because I wanted to savor every word. It was a month well spent.

    Clark's debut full-length collection about the trauma--personal trauma, historical trauma--we carry in our bodies is PHENOMENAL. These poems will haunt me for a long, long time, which, as far as I'm concerned, is the mark of a good book of poetry. Here's a little taste, from "Where the Fired Body Is Porous":

    He is reaching for my kitchen.

    Unruly secret at the nape of my neck.
    Hush now--
    : All those gleaming pots and pans.
    : All those cabinets I keep shut. Hush.
    I am undone and open.
    No order is here/can't find nuthin' back there/except
    a little me/in a chair by the stove:
    hot comb on the black burner, another red tornado.
    Mama standing,
    bowing my head downward--bending me
    into a black comma.
    Pressing my hair--smooth.
    Holding back my ears as I hold back my breath.
    Gettin' cooked. Always afraid Mama
    would burn me.
    But-- I am clanging, full
    of kinks,
    teeming with my own spice: turmeric, clove, paprika--
    grains of paradise liquid/smoke.