epic tale shows you the strengths and weakness of men and women alike, whose lives are interwoven so beautifully and inescapably, that it should bring us to deeper thought.
We might not live on four separate worlds, that need each other to survive we only have one, which we all need to survive, There is much to learn, The loyalty and will to fight back of the Patryns, The survivability and inability to lie of the Sartans, The way in which all lifeforms are linked together through the Death Gate the Force is strong in this one!,
Bookbrings it all together, perhaps not in the most original way, but definitely in a way that is true to the genre and incidentally, is written for the big screens.
The action scenes and overall descriptions worked marvellously in my mind, and Im sure theyd work just as well in cinemas, Imagine the runic magic special effects, just for a second the tattoos, the dragons, the shapeshifting, the endless strong male and female characters, the physics of these worlds!
I read this as a teenager, I've enjoyed rereading them tremendously.
They still speak to me, I can still visualize them and their world, and there is beauty in this, In the end, it is a happy ending, with quite a few bittersweet notes, farewells and the knowledge that evil can't truly be extinguished from the world.
It is with a slight sense of sadness that I say my own farewell for a while, but I know I can return any time!
I am sad to finish the series.
There is a nice wrap up in the appendix that makes that part a must read,
It may be time to reread some other favourites by these two authors, A wonderful end to a wonderful series ofbooks that is the Death Gate cycle, A portrayal of how destructive racism and prejudice can be and how tragic the consequences can become, This saga should not be missed by anyone who is an avid reader of fantasy, Lovely conclusion
Love it love it love it, Beautiful ending. I love the stuff with the higher power mainly because its still a mystery by the end,
More than that, though, Zifnab is exactly in line with my type of comedy and I love whenever he shows up on screen even if all the other characters groan.
The way most everything in the plot closes up is exactly what I needed if not what I expected, I love it when books manage to do this,
I love how for so many of the books I was focused on Haplo and his character development and by this one I switched to watching and cheering for Alfred's development.
The two of them together make me happy and I can't say more without spoiling it,
Three cheers for The Death Gate Cycle, Now what do I do with my life,
Over all I think I'd give the series aor,. It's great fun and has its own symbolism and flavor of humor that I love and the setting is soooo unique and the characters are sooo interesting.
But there's a little something missing to really put it on the same level as, like say, Way of Kings or Mistborn by Brandon Sanderson, But damn is it close The Seventh Gate is the thrilling conclusion to the New York Times bestselling Death Gate Cycle by Margaret Weis and Tracy Hickman.
In this tale of treachery, power, and heroism, Alfred, Haplo, and Marit embark on a journey of death and discovery as they seek to enter the dreaded Seventh Gate.
Encountering enemies both old and new, they unleash a magic no power can control, damning themselves to an apocalypse of unimagined proportion in a final struggle between good and evil.
Too short! Felt cheated of this last book, The text size and volume is probably/of what the others are, There are a couple of narrative liberties, but overall a satisfying conclusion, How do you sew up an epic series of largely individual novels set on a variety of fantastic worlds Well Weis and Hickman's solution is with a slapdash effort tying up the few sporadic threads.
This final novel is an immense failure, and if you view the series as a hole, really discredits the previous works,
I really enjoyed the previous six, The first few I thought were especially strong, The world building was great, as was the characterisation and they really had me gripped,
This final novel was meant to fizz and sparkle, but Weis and Hickman only delivered flat lemonade, . . I suddenly realized that all the books I had reviewed were ones that I had enjoyed, So, for a change of pace, I decided to include some that I thought were in need of serious editing, Seventh Gate immediately popped into my mind because I can still feel the crushing disappointmentand it's been ten years, I had faithfully read all the other books in the Death Gate Cycle, and tolerated the fluctuations in qualityranging from the mesmerizingly melancholic meditation that was Fire Sea to the cheesy romantic fluff that was Elven Star.
After all, this was a series, not a standalone novel, What I found within Seventh Gate, however, was more of an outline than a satisfying conclusion, The formerly complex and engaging characters had been reduced to cardboard cutoutsand the dialogue, . . I cringe even to recall the dialogue, To add insult to injury, the ending was extremely rushed and I think that the entire conflict was resolved with some kind of deus ex machina.
For a moment, I even wondered if the authors had been abducted by aliens and the publishers forced to employ a junior ghostwriter,
The bottom line: I would still recommend this series for the interesting premise and for the volumes such as Fire Sea which were of higher quality but which you can't really understand without reading the other books just be forewarned that the ending will not be satisfying.
It took me a while to read all of the books in this series, but it will always remain one of my favorites, It's such a powerful series in so many ways, ltYou know, whenever I'm lucky enough to find a reasonably literate person who has read some fantasy novels, I'm always surprised by the fact that as far as I can recall none of them have read The Death Gate Cycle.
Granted, I had some holdover nostalgia from the Dragonlance Chronicles for Weis and Hickman, and so I probably had more cause to read them than most, but, even solely on their own merits, these are really excellent books.
They're filled with interesting and nuanced characters Hugh the Hand is still one of my favorite characters ever and the plotlines are expertly interwoven, The real mastery, though, is in the novels'distinct geographically, sociologically, politically, ethnically worlds,
People who enjoyed Harry Potter or Tolkein should give these books a shot, Enfin la conclusion de ce cycle et malgré un début assez tranquille dès le milieu du livre la tension, l'importance de tous les enjeux prend le dessus et happe le lecteur.
J'ai beaucoup aimé la réflexion sur les effets de chacune des possibilités, à quel point on pouvait laisser les mondes tels quels ou prendre la décision de tout chambouler encore une fois.
J'ai beaucoup aimé l'évolution d'Haplo qui a vraiment approfondit sa réflexion tout du long des livres et est arrivé à ne plus douter.
Pareil pour Alfred son évolution de vieux dégarni perdu et malhabile à quelqu'un qui prend des décisions et refuse de se soustraire aux difficiles décisions qu'il a à prendre.
Leur rencontre a vraiment changé leur vie et a permis d'apporter les graines du changement,
On sent bien que le but du livre est bien de faire passer un message sur les humains et la manière dont ils doivent coexister sans se prendre pour des dieux.
Le message est assez clair, La manière dont il est amené est assez fantastique et fascinante pour qu'il ne paraisse pas trop lourd,
Voilà un cycle très sympathique qui aura su montrer des personnages intéressants aux caractères bien différents mais qui arrivent à travailler ensemble.
Et le fil rouge reliant Haplo et Alfred a permis de faire le lien entre toutes les histoires, nous tenant en haleine sur leur sort tout du long.
Merci à Zaz de ne pas avoir lâché le morceau et m'avoir mis les livres dans les mains, ce fut un voyage vraiment extraordinaire.
et Zifnab est le meilleur perso de tous les temps :p This is a scifi series masquerading as a fantasy series, a postpostpostapocalyptic masquerading as an epic.
This is a series which introduced my brother and me, as boys, to the core concepts of quantum mechanics and the uncertainty principle, This is a series which meditates on the power hate can grant us, on the power fear holds over
us, and on the terrible sacrifices things like love and faith and hope and trust demand.
This is also a series about the value of a friendly dog,
This is the final volume, but it is not the end the Wave is unending and the Wave acts to corrects itself,
If only the Wave had bothered to correct the bright, colourful, and entirely uncharacteristic covers of this and the preceding volume! This is the final book of a series.
In this one, we find out if Lord Xar will succeed in bringing the worlds together and killing millions or will our heroes close the seventh gate and thwart his plans.
As you can tell by my rating I did not enjoy the finale of a series that started off so strong, This offering was my most disliked offering of the series, I don't know where this book and series went wrong, I liked the two main characters and their developed relationship, This relationship is on full display thru this book, While this relationship was on display I did feel every other character wasn't and it seemed like they were streamlined, I know there shouldn't be much character development in the seventh book of a series but it seemed like this book was just action, After awhile this action became boring, This action would have looked great in visual form but I lost interest in it during my read of this novel, The ending was satisfactory and left it open that the series could continue spoiler: it doesn't, At the end there are many appendices that are in small print to explain plots and themes from this series, Shouldn't this be in the story At that point I just didn't care and didn't bother with these appendices, Not a good sign of my enjoyment,
For me, this book did not have the magic the first four books of this series contained, At the beginning of the series I loved the world building and dive into different realms, This book was more an action book and I did not care for it, Although it might be a case that it could be me more than the book, My personal life is not the best at the moment and maybe I wasn't in the best place for this book, Maybe I did not give this book a fair chance because of this, Maybe sometime in the future I will try it again and see if this affected my enjoyment, For now, it was not my favorite read, I think what I like most about this series is that almost no one is inherently evil, they are just scared and/or misguided, No one is a saint either, they all have their faults, but they almost all learn as well, Sometimes a bit late, but never really too late, even if they did some horrific stuff, The character development is outstanding! And although the relationships are all heteronormative, at least the serie has quite some strong women as well,
The main character basically starts as some evil guy learning that maybe his truth and his way of living are not the best for himself, the people around him and the world.
He's certainly no better than the mensch and neither are the rest of his people: Sartan and Patryn alike, But he's also not powerless, Although he's just one drop in a big ocean, he can still make a difference with the help of unexpected friends,
Typing it like this, it sounds a bit cliché, but it's not,
I read this series I don't know how many times, since I first came across it at the age ofor, and I still love it : I would love to read more about these people, even though this story is finished and I know there will not be anything more.
I'd even like to see this on screen, but that scares me as well, knowing the way Hollywood tends to change characters drastically in a horrible way, while they are perfect as they are in this book well, it could be a bit less heteronormative, but it's ok.
It's still a good bromance and all, Ha sido todo un acierto recuperar esta serie que leí por primera vez durante mi adolescencia, Como era de esperar, esta relectura la ha privado del barniz de obra maestra que le apliqué entonces, pero aún así ha pasado la prueba con creces.
Se trata de una colección de libros en la que tiene cabida la reflexión sobre grandes temas pero que se sustenta, sobre todo, en unos personajes carismáticos, un universo rico y complejo y un ritmo narrativo adictivo que deja espacio suficiente a los detalles.
En mi opinión, esta serie llega al listón de joya del género fantástico con permiso de Sapkowski ya que, a pesar de apoyarse en muchos de los estereotipos tradicionales, crea un nuevo espacio totalmente genuino.
Se aleja en gran medida del hilo narrativo habitual: si bien también contamos con la figura del héroe varios, de hecho, en vez de seres humildes que descubren poco a poco su poder, los protagonistas surgen de entre los que hasta ahora se creían dioses.
Su hazaña final no será luchar activamente por la salvación del universo, sino que dicha salvación depende en gran parte de su capacidad para aceptar lo limitado de su poder, saber retirarse a tiempo y aceptar que no tienen derecho a gobernar en la vida de nadie.
Recorremos, por tanto, el camino contrario al que siguen muchas historias del género,
Reseña completa y mi versión de la portada en sitelink com/ A fine conclusion to an epic tale, I cried, I laughed, I couldn't put it down, The relationship building between the characters Haplo amp Alfred and dog, from sworn enemies to realizing that not only do they care for each other but need each other, was so touching and emotional and heartwrenching.
I love them all. The world was built on a massive scale but also was solidly supported by how's and why's, I loved the footnotes and appendices,
I would keep reading about these characters amp their worlds, Et hop, une série terminée ! Ce dernier tome était plus court que les autres d'une bonne centaine de page, donc plus rapide à lire.
J'ai apprécié de retrouver Haplo et Alfred une dernière fois à la recherche de la Septième Porte,
Globalement, j'ai vraiment bien apprécié la série : les personnages sont approfondis au fil des livres et je me souviendrai longtemps du chien, deZifnab et de son dragon de Pryan, l'intrigue est très intéressante, les différents mondes vraiment uniques.
La guerre entre Sartans et Patryns, à peine évoquée dans le tome, prend une dimension de plus en plus importante, les informations sont disséminées par ci par là dans chaque tome.
Aussi, les différents mondes, que l'on pensait au départ indépendants, sont en fait reliés et forment les éléments d'une grosse machine qui est malheureusement tombée en panne.
Enfin, j'ai beaucoup apprécié les réflexions sur la peur, la haine, le racisme et le combat pour les ressources naturelles,
Donc, SI on fait abstraction de la traduction bâclée et/ou relecture absente, et c'est un grand SI, je recommande cette série qu'il est agréable de découvrir.
Enfin, je poursuis sur ma lancée, et je constate que le tomeest une suite conforme au tome, bourrée de fautes et de traductions obscures, qui m'ont profondément agacée, parmi lesquelles édition:
chapitre: Jonathan La mer de feu sappelle encore une fois Jonathon
chapitre: les runes protecteurs nom féminin daprès le dictionnaire
chapitre: tienstoi prêt, juste en cas just in case au cas où
chapitre: libérée de toutes rêves
chapitre: Il ne savait pas ce que méditait Haplo non, Haplo ne fait pas de yoga
chapitre: Xar se souciait comme dun osrunes de ce qui pouvait advenir aux lazars
chapitre: les runes patryns protégeant la nef patryn étaient presque tous détruits elles devraient être détruites
chapitre: astu compris quelque chose à ce que tu viens dentendre.
cest censé être une question il me semble
chapitre: pour soulager un peu linconfort de cette longue station debout façon très étrange de dire quon attend debout depuis longtemps
chapitre: il nétait pas claustrophobe, mais la tension, la peur et la presse lui donnaient limpression que les murs allaient se refermer sur lui pressure la pression
chapitre: ils ne suivraient aucun chef que le leur je trouve la formulation bizarre
chapitre: Alfred entreprit la magie de Xar pas compris
chapitre: il lança son propre rune UNE rune !!
Epilogue : Lambic SerreBoulon est devenu Lambic Serreboulons
Epilogue : Quil suffise de dire quà la suite dune curieuse série dincidents, je rencontrai Haplo et son remarquable chien jai limpression que la phrase nest pas finie
De plus, pendant six tomes, patryn et sartan ont toujours été mis au masculin.
Dans ce tome, il y a par exemple des runes patrynes et des runes sartanes , mis aussi des runes sartans et des runes patryns Il faudrait choisir, quoi
Bref, si ça avait été comme ça depuis le début, je naurais pas continué cette série.
Il me restait deux tomes, donc bon, En tout cas, je constate que les erreurs de la versionont été fidèlement conservées dans la réédition de
Autre chose : le tomeest le seul dans lequel il y ait des sauts de lignes pour mettre en évidence les ellipses temporelles ou le changement de point de vue.
Avant tout était collé et on avait du mal à comprendre quon avait changé de personnage ou de lieu, on passait du coq à lâne, Ce changement est très appréciable, et cest dommage quil nait pas été ajouté dans les six premiers tomes de la réédition de, en tout pas dans les miennes tomes,,et.
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