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ولكن حين يأتي وقت الرد هل ستمتلك ما تدفع ! I wouldnt say i enjoyed this play because it was about like many other Strindberg plays about males who try to defeat/seduce a woman and women written like a sort of maneating monster.
The dialouge was powerful,technically,character wise it was more impressive than Miss Julie to me.
Tekla the female lead was not a weak victim like Miss Julie, i liked that.
Strinderg had to make strong to show how her husand became weak because of her,
August Strindberg is better playwrighter than novelist but too many stories of his feel like he uses his fiction to fight back the winds of change in lates when there were groups of women who wanted more rights.
He is more interesting when he writes dream like plays and not realistic naturlism dramas about gender roles,family.
Creditors is a threecharacter play in which August Strindberg reflects on what's worst in human intercourse and intimate relationships.
It takes its title from the notion that in each husband/wife pairing there is one partner who takes and another who givesgives so much that he or she is sucked dry.
The play is about a married couple, Adolf and Tekla, He is younger than she he's her second husband and one of the things that unites them is their contempt for and ridicule of her tyrannical first husband.
She's a free thinker and a writer, He's a painter. Both view themselves as the "creditors" in their relationship, Did he teach her how to think and how to write, at the expense of his own art and health When we meet him, Adolf is a semiinvalid, unable to walk without a pair of canes, and devoid of inspiration his new friend Gustav has suggested to him that he take up sculpting, but that doesn't seem to be a viable choice.
Or did she nurture him, so that she is deserving of his tolerance and indulgence when she pursues flings and flirtations
The play is divided into three scenes, each featuring a different pair of characters.
Adolf and Gustav try to solve Adolf's problem in the first then Adolf confronts his wifebitterly and horriblyin the second.
The resolution comes in the final scene, when Gustav meets Tekla, Creditors was written at the time of Strindberg's divorce, and it can feel reductive and misogynistic in places it's also perhaps a bit longer than it needs to be.
But it's compellingly raw and incisive, reducing romance and love to bleak transaction and artifice, it revolves around nothing but revenge revenge at its finest! I pity them, all the three of them.
اگرچه جنبههای زنستیزانه در نمایشنامه وجود داشت اما در عینحال جنبههای روانکاوانه هم داشت که من خیلی خوشم اومد.
واکاوی عشق "آدولف" به زنش بنظر من بسیار هنرمندانه و ریزبینانه بود. ولی به "گوستاو" و "تکلا" که میرسیم نویسنده وارد فازهای ناتورالیستی میشه و دیگه خبری از واکاوی رفتارها نیست و این کمی توی ذوق میزد.
August Strindberg misogynist or genius or both Not sure what to think of this, except that I would very much like to see it in production.
I'm not sure if I know how to feel about this play, I have found that Strindberg's works make me feel uncomfortable, which strikes me as a really odd sensation.
Creditors was, in all essence, a bit haunting, In this play, two friends, Gustav and Adolphe, discuss Adolphe's wife, who actually used to be married to Gustav.
Gustav makes Adolphe feel uncomfortable, then leaves him to argue with his wife, After Adolphe has left, Gustav tries to hit on his wife unsuccessfully, but little do they know that Adolhpe got so utterly stressed out that he had a massive seizure.
Wow.
I don't really like the tone that Strindberg takes towards women, He makes the claim that women are not to be taken seriously, and if they are, that will result in death.
I'm not sure that that's such a good message to be conveying, even if I'm fairly sure that he was merely responding to Ibsen's feminist plays for some part.
Regardless, I dislike his attitude because it is so distracting, Other than that, this play worked as a relatively short oneact play, ./
sitelinkThe Creditors by sitelinkAugust Strindberg is a short play featuring three main leads.
Adolf, a sickly artist, Thekla, his wife who is a writer and Gustaf, Thekla's ex husband who travels under a pseudonym and wants to take revenge on them both.
The married couple, who travel as siblings for some reason and treat each other as such even when they are alone spend most of their time apart.
Thekla is socializing with everyone but her husband and Adolf spends his time, almost,
all alone.
See, he has made a friend within these past few days and he keeps him company when Thekla is out.
He is a professor who, for some reason, advices him on how to stop being jealous of his wife, and shames him for worshipping her still.
The professor, who is actually Thekla's ex husband whom she abandoned in order to run away with Adolf, tells him to put his advice into practice when she returns, while he will remain hidden in the next room.
When Thekla comes back, she tells Adolf about the time she spent alone and who she met but he is having none of it.
He expresses his jealousy again and again only to be shamed about that,
After that, he exits and she is left alone, And it doesn't take long for Gustaf to get back there and surprise her, They are catching up but he confesses that he isn't over her and wants to take her back.
And then he kisses her, But after the kiss, he reveals that all along he had a plan, Manipulate Adolf to see her as she really is so that he would start acting up instead of being passive and their relationship would sour, as well as ridiculing her in front of everyone thus why he kissed her.
He also admits that she ruined all women for him and that's why he doesn't wish to be married again.
While he talks, strange noises start coming from the next room, Thekla forces her way into there only to discover Adolf lying half dead on the floor after having a seizure.
She is taken by his loss, begins to mourn and begs for him to regain consciousness.
Gustaf, speaking to himself, realizes that she really did love Adolf and now feels pity about her.
And that's how the play ends,
I think this was a slight improvement over the last play I read by Strindberg, sitelinkMiss Julie but not by much.
At least reading this didn't made me hate myself, and I think I am gonna give it to the guy, at least he knew how to compose a complete sentence.
But again, I was met with so many things I didn't like,
Given the fact that this play, similar to the previous one, has a very weak plot, I think I am going to describe its flaws by listing what I didn't like about the characters.
First of all, let's talk about Gustaf, the scorned husband, Of course he is going to be angry after he is abandoned by his wife, But his character never gets any more depth than that of the ex husband, Probably the author wanted to also show us how smart he is, since he conducts a plan to mess the lives of Adolf and Thekla.
And that's a big maybe,
He also says the most weird things, And the most misogynistic things if I may say,
For example, one of his advices to Adolf, is abstinence because if he is having too much sex, he will be prone to seizures well, he did die because of one but I think that happened because he saw the love of his life kissing her ex.
And of course, I wouldn't leave out the misogyny, It was a main focus in Miss Julie and it's still the main focus here,
Gustaf, tells Adolf that he shouldn't love a "worthless, stupid and provocative creature, whose power comes only from what's between of her legs, who owes her ideals and place in society to him and who does nothing but bleeding once every month.
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Because God forbid women being more than their sexual organs, show off their skin, and are given credit for their accomplishments, instead of the guy taking it! I know one could say that these are not the author's thoughts but the characters' but let me remind you again, that this is not the first time I read something considered misogynistic by him.
Also, his "women are just little boys with breasts" line, uhm, dude, that's creepy and wrong.
Even the pity Gustaf feels for Thekla in the end, I don't think it was because his plan ended up costing Adolf's life, but because in his eyes, he is also weak and worthless, and how dare Thekla pick Adolf over him!
But Thekla herself is not any better.
First of all, she is a cheater, which is never a good look, And not only to Gustaf, but to Adolf as well keep that in mind kids once a cheater, always a cheater
Specifically to Adolf, she makes no effort to hide the fact that she has met and charmed many other men, and similar to Gustaf, shames him for expressing his jealousy, although each of them does it for different reasons.
Also the fact that she calls him brother even when they are alone, but are in fact a couple, that's creepy too!
She is emotionally detached from Adolf and I don't know what made her feel like that or why she still is with him.
Seeing why their relationship is like that or why she doesn't end it would be interesting, but we never actually figure that out.
Oh, and I almost forgot, She shames him for being sickly and says she is tired of being his nurse, Now, I understand that being a caregiver is sometimes very hard, but, I tend to feel more sympathy for the sick individual, so, sorry, but that's another negative trait in my book!
The only character I have some sympathy for, is Adolf.
He is in poor health, the woman he loves cheats on him and the man he considers his friend doesn't think of him as such.
But unfortunately he is also not very well written,
I honestly tried my best to make myself clear, I hope I achieved that, But yeah, as you can see, this was another negative experience,
If you made it this far, congratulations!
'Til next time, take care : : : Bardzo dobra sztuka, z niecierpliwością czekam na spektakl.
Już w Grudniu!act,scene
wife, exhusband incognito and wife's new lover
This is an accident waiting to happen!
Stindberg reveals in his plays.
what his life was all about,
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